What if Yamaha were to make a sister for Hatsune Miku about 2 years younger than her, how would yu guys react?
What if Yamaha were to make a sister for Hatsune Miku about 2 years younger than her, how would yu guys react?
Actually, Anon 216, Rin isn't even related to Miku what-so-ever. Maybe in your headcanon they are, but please don't state it as if it were a fact in future, you could confuse newer fans! ^-^
They[the company] can not stae it officially, but fom their moves, or artwork sketches they maybe quite related. They're pepole after all, and can have their own intentions or headcannons.
As for CV04, it will be a Megurine's Counterpart, as the only is he is missing from the main picture.(Hint: look at her V2-V3 face art, it has a sad feel on it. Though, she's hardly tries to hide it)
I dont want to be hurtful to you, Anon 82.26, but are you from Russia or near that?
There hasn't been any official material from Crypton suggesting they are siblings; but feel free to headcanon it as you wish.
If Miku and Rin were siblings, it would be announced. Crypton has never been secretive. c':
CV04 is not confirmed to be Megurine Luka's counterpart; remember that not all Crypton Vocaloids have counterparts. (Only Rin/Len and Meiko/Kaito were designed to sing together. What's to say Miku isn't Luka's counterpart, haha.)
Don't forget as well, Luka was originally meant to be Miku, but the projects were swapped.
Don't forget the trio packages represent sound as it travels, from Miku to Luka. There was never meant to be a fourth CV originally and after Luka they had Project If... set aside for future planning, it was just considered later when Miku was a hit. They are not likely in any rush either since we've been no told there will be no new vocals until the updates ones set are handled.
CFM are team of pepole, not a network of self-aware Ai's...They too, can have their own doubts/ideas and even headcanons... Its just corporate etiquette and PR relation guides... As im truly see, there are several positions in the "CFM's band"(at least SEGA depict them this way.) are missing, and Luka feels like she's OUT OF HER PLACE. Its practically scribbed on her face during V2-3 era. About pairings: im not pair'ed them, its how they are positioned in the band: (mostly by SEGA, but variations can occur anyway.)
Main Lead/Vocal - Miku, She's a DX7 after all...
Second Vicals/Chorus and Guitarists - Kagamine's Rin and Len, Those use a KX5 keytar, but desiged after a synth, who can nicely play the guitar sections. And can step up on a Miku's place(ie can lead the party, but Rin do this a bit more often than Len)
Drums/percussion - No one. Altoulgh right now, this place was occupied by Luka, and she's didnt feel well on it
Pure Keyboards/Synth - no one, Vacant as of now..
Brass and Wind section/Strings section - That's where i hope Luka will be more in place by now, but someone HAS to drum the percussion... And She's a VL-X Synth...
Kaito and Meiko are not in the group, because they are more older than others(Literally, and, because they not a CFM's idea "from scratch"), and they are not pay on a specific instrument out there...
If a sound have its start, then, eventually, it comes to an end someday. If they have started to assemble a band sometime, theyll finish it, no matter intentionally or not. Thats how life goes.
Someone HAS TO end that sound/damp it travelling around you, or soon you ears will be overladed with ultrasonic scream, and you lost it for you life...
Again, Luka feels out of place and needs a male counterpart on her own. It scribbed on her face...
Fima 007 wrote: CFM are team of pepole, not a network of self-aware Ai's...They too, can have their own doubts/ideas and even headcanons... Its just corporate etiquette and PR relation guides... As im truly see, there are several positions in the "CFM's band"(at least SEGA depict them this way.) are missing, and Luka feels like she's OUT OF HER PLACE. Its practically scribbed on her face during V2-3 era. About pairings: im not pair'ed them, its how they are positioned in the band: (mostly by SEGA, but variations can occur anyway.)
Main Lead/Vocal - Miku, She's a DX7 after all...
Second Vicals/Chorus and Guitarists - Kagamine's Rin and Len, Those use a KX5 keytar, but desiged after a synth, who can nicely play the guitar sections. And can step up on a Miku's place(ie can lead the party, but Rin do this a bit more often than Len)
Drums/percussion - No one. Altoulgh right now, this place was occupied by Luka, and she's didnt feel well on it
Pure Keyboards/Synth - no one, Vacant as of now..
Brass and Wind section/Strings section - That's where i hope Luka will be more in place by now, but someone HAS to drum the percussion... And She's a VL-X Synth...
Kaito and Meiko are not in the group, because they are more older than others(Literally, and, because they not a CFM's idea "from scratch"), and they are not pay on a specific instrument out there...
If a sound have its start, then, eventually, it comes to an end someday. If they have started to assemble a band sometime, theyll finish it, no matter intentionally or not. Thats how life goes.
Someone HAS TO end that sound/damp it travelling around you, or soon you ears will be overladed with ultrasonic scream, and you lost it for you life...
Again, Luka feels out of place and needs a male counterpart on her own. It scribbed on her face...
Again... There was only 3 members of the series planned. I think you'll find that Luka is the end of the story.
You're presuming things are from multiple sources, just imagine that refer to a sound of someone shouting to another person on the other side of a canyon. Miku is the sound the person first makes, the Kagamines are the sound as it bounces and echoes around the canyon, while Luka represents the end of the sound after it travels. Thats what they mean; sound from start to finish, from speaker to listener.
Truth be told, the voice of Miku wasn't that of a 16 year old girl, nor the Kagamine's 14 year olds... You need to separate avatar from voice here, their all voice actors who were young adults/adults, so all are the voices of that.
There was no fourth planned because, as I said they had other project lined up. They didn't plan a male either because of Kaito's failure. Think back to 2007, not 2015 here. Things were different then. So the series was a short 3-parter of 3 female vocalists, reprsenting 3 vocal qualities between them. Bare in mind also, that as far as anyone can tell, Len wasn't originally planned to be included, they just did in because I guess they needed a male vocal or something... Hence why Rin had much of the focus originally of the package in V2.
A lot can change over the course of time.
Edit: Also, lets just forget Kaiton and Meiko, their a different product to the CV series. And discount SEGA since they are just creating a game for someone else's property, they've done this for lots of things over the years. Just focus on the CFM side and nothing else. Everything else is moot.
I always stay on the opposite sides, friend. That's how the world are built. Sorry.
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"You're presuming things are from multiple sources, just imagine that refer to a sound of someone shouting to another person on the other side of a canyon. Miku is the sound the person first makes, the Kagamines are the sound as it bounces and echoes around the canyon, while Luka represents the end of the sound after it travels. Thats what they mean; sound from start to finish, from speaker to listener."
maybe they mean "travelling around the world"? Then it must stop somewhere. and, of course CFM is a too small company to accomodate all the hype that was generated around Miku V2 package.(Only this one, because it practically scribed the statement: Vocaloid=Anime mascot+"Cuuute" voice)
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"Truth be told, the voice of Miku wasn't that of a 16 year old girl, nor the Kagamine's 14 year olds... You need to separate avatar from voice here, their all voice actors who were young adults/adults, so all are the voices of that. "
Of course i keep them separate.(im even do not saw photos of the actual providers of the theese voices you mentioned, maybe Asami, but i dont remember now how she looks in real world ) BUT, i do not separate the written avatar from the intended voice for it(of course yoy need to reverse them here.). Its a matter of sinchronization between them. In Miku's case, The Asami(im really admit her bravery for stepping into this moot project with us and done so much for it. *redface* ) was able to keep sounding like a 16-years girl, but as every human out here, she's matured/aged, so her voice are done the same thing too.(V3 English, maybe appends too) Again, im comparing the official boxart image representation(you called this an "avatar" for the voice i guess) with the voice that contained in the package.(and Miku's V3 English and Standard V3 version are different packages for me, so i judge them only with their own boxart representations available for each of them separately)
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"A lot can change over the course of time. "
It's already changed out there. The first plan was short(they didnt expected much luck in it, already writing the "plan B"(projrct if...) on a paper.) Yhen the Miku hype. At some point i guess they maybe wanted to make some type of a small band, but got crushed by the frequent engine updates(Thanks, yamaha, you was very helpful here) and stuck in a "update" cycle for the other vb's here... My guess, is that IF they(i mean CFM's) don plan to expand theyr company, they better assemble some sort of a small band here, and focus solely only on them. They already have the widest-known vb out there,(yeah, selfish claim, it was for Miku) and can ease off the pace to concentrate on quality and complexity of each other, showig the other studios "How it meant to be done" here.
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"Edit: Also, lets just forget Kaiton and Meiko, their a different product to the CV series. And discount SEGA since they are just creating a game for someone else's property, they've done this for lots of things over the years. Just focus on the CFM side and nothing else. "
Because they are not part of the"CV" series, didnt mean that they are was only been distributed by CFM back in a day. They failed, at some point, yes, but(i hope) they leaned their lesson's here. As for "sega" part, its matter of corporate relations, when the time has got us to point "is the vocaloid are profitable enough to make its living?" yamaha just has got to make somthig as a "last try" i guess...they told CFM to make some vb's, and later suggested(or choosed for them, i dont know) sega as a first(and i guess main) dev, for the VG market. The price of a fail would be not-so-high, as at least they can negotiate this one. They know, how was sega would do the VG version of Miku, so they have some faith in it. It was worked excellent back then.Think about if they choosed another dev out there...(Stubborn and greedy Nintendo(Remember how's PlayStation was born?) or just greedy(everythig has a price on it) Microsoft or EA or other western devs) And how it would affect the situation here.
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Having different sources can give ability to see the same object from different angles, it never hurted anyone. Following different dogma's is not bad too, just do not to be pretend that "ultimate authority". It always drive pepole to hell.
^Your viewpoints are currently based on speculation, and don't have any reliable sources to support them. If you can find concrete evidence to back up your ideas, then less people will question them. :D
Diz is right...
I'm just not going to repeat myself and say the things I just said a post ago, on stuff that can be proven versus stuff you make up. I'm just tired of it. Bring me something that is solid to go by Its what I would demand if this was a manga/anime, a chapter or episode; a source of your information.